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2009年10月23日 16:35 KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN? (72 条评论)

AaishaNaz

KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

Kuch log Ahmadiya firqe se talluk rakhne walo ko mosalman nahi kehte koi kafir kehte hai aisa kio hai koi khas waja unko kafir kehne ki???

2009年10月23日 20:40Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
COZ WO MUSLIM NAHI HAIN BAT KHATAM.
BHT BOR TOPIC HAI OR MERI ADMINISTRATOR SHB SE GUZARISH HAI K IS TOPIC KO DELETE KER DIJIYE.

2009年10月23日 22:26Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
kya proof hai wo muslim nahi hai? sabit kio nahi kerte? is topic se ap bore ho rahe hai ap kya maze lene k liye read kerte hai topic? or administrator se meri bhi gozarish hai k na kiya jai ye topic delete kub tak bhag te rahege hum suchai se? face ker ke jawab dena seekho sucha hona achi bat hai lekin suchai sabit kerna usse bhi ziada achi bat hai.............................

2009年10月24日 22:25Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
SACHAI KA KYA JAWAB DOON...??? TUMARI TARHA KOI BARDASHT HI NAHI KER SAKTA SACHAI JAISE TUM NE GHUSSE SE REPLY KIYA SAB HI SACHAI SUN KER GHUSSA KER JATE HAIN.


BAT YE HAI K SABIT WO KIYA JATA HAI JIS MAI KOI SHAK HO YE BAT TO 100% CONFIRM HAI K QADYANI MUSLIM NAHI HAIN TO MAI OR KYA SABIT KAROON WAISE TUMARI ITLA K LIE BATATA CHALOO K YE BAT BHT SAAL PEHLE HI SABIT HO CHUKI HAI K QADYANI MUSLIM NAHI HAIN.

OR PHR TUM SE KYA BAT KARUN TUMARI IK MEMBER ""HANIA"" MERE 3 SAWALON KA JAWAB NAHI DE SAKI TO OR MAI KYA BAT KAROON....???

WO B TUMARI TARHA KAHANIYAN HI SUNATI RAHI JO TUMARA (QADYANIYON KA) ASAL HATHYAR HAI K TOPIC PER BAT NAHI KERTE OR APNI DUKH BHARI KAHANIYAN SUNATE REHTE HAIN.MAINE OSSE B KAHA OR TUMHE B KEHTA HUN
""BHT DUKH HUA TUMARI KAHANI SUN KER""

2009年10月30日 22:14Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
THIK HAI WO SAWAL MUJHSE KARO MAI DONGI HAR SAWAL KA JAWAB DOST TUM TO GHUSSA KER GAI HUM TO PORANE DOST HAI THANDE HO KER BAT KARO YAR BUS MAI CHAHTA HO YAR CLEAR HOJAI HER BAT MAI TUMHE TUMHARE SAWAL KA HI JAWAB DOGI BOLO.

2009年10月31日 2:54Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AliForU
(((A L I))) 18, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
Bismillahir Rahman Nir Raheem.

Assalam o Allaikum.

Aaisha jee nice question.

Dekhiye kafir nahi kehte bus ahmadiya or qadiani firke se talluk rakhne wale bhaio se thora sa aitraz hai kuch bhaio ka wo bhi ye k.

Quraan pak mai saaf saaf likha hai jo Rasool pak {s} ko akhri Nabi na mane wo daaira e islam se kharij hai or hamara ye manna hai Hazrat Essa {a} aige qayamat se pehle or Imam Mehndi {a} ka bhi zahoor hoga qayamat se pehle to hamare qadiani or ahmadi bhaio ka ye manna hai Hazrat Essa {a} ka zahoor hogaya tha Ghulam ahmed kadiani ki shakal mai to hamara is bat se takrar hai or phir kabhi kadiani bhai ye bhi kehte hai k ghulam ahmed qadiani hi Imam Mehndi the to hamara ye kehna hai k hum ne parha hai k jub Imam Mehndi aige to inkilab aiga mosalmano ka bol bala hoga or phir qayamat aigi or ye kya hua k ghulam ahmed qadiani ki sorat mai Imam Mehndi ka zahoor hua or qayamat kio nahi aai or ghulam ahmed qadiani ka intiqal hogaya or mosalmano ko koi farak nahi parha balke mojooda dor mai muslims ka or bora hal hai all our the world dekhe sirf ye ikhtilaf hai k ap log kisi ki bat per itni jaldi yakeen kio ker lete hai ap Quraan pak ko dekhe bus jo Quraan pak kehta hai usse maniye naa k us bat ko maniye jo koi bhi banda mau utha ker kehdeta hai 1 banda hai wo kehta hai k mai Hazrat Essa {a} ho or ap man jate hai wah janab thori aqal kiya kijiye na.


Bus kuch aisi bate hai sister jo nafrat bani hoi hai bus koi kafir nahi hai sub apni apni akhrat ki tayyari karrahe hai to bus kuch log bora jante hai in firko ko kio k wo aisi bate kehte hai bus thats it.


I know mera reply bohat bora hai bohat sare logo ko bora lagega kio k mene is reply mai bohat sakht alfaz use kiye hai so plz maf ker dijiyega mind nahi kijiyega.


Walla ho Alamo Bilghoyoob.

Allah pak hum sub ko suchai samajhne ki tofeek ata farmai. {Aamin}

Remember me in your Prayers.

2009年10月31日 20:39Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
NO COMMENT

2009年10月31日 21:30Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AliForU
(((A L I))) 18, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
Bismilla Hir Rahman Nir Raheem

Assalam O Allaikum

Dear Aaisha baji kio no comment kio jawab dijiye na agar mera comment thik hai to accept kijiye or agar ghalat hai to saabit kijiye.

Allah pak bless you.

2009年11月3日 21:24Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
LEKIN HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI *A.S* SAHEB KO AP BORA SABIT KERKE DIKHAIYE AJ TAK KOI BORAI NAHI KI QADIANI SAHEB NE NA HI AJ TAK KOI SABIT KER PAYA WO TO IS QOM K REHNUMA THE BUS HUM LOGO NE UNKI QADAR NAHI KI.

2009年11月4日 7:41Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AliForU
(((A L I))) 18, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Raheem

Assalam o Allaikum

Wah Wah i Swear to Allah jub mene apka reply read kiya to meri ankho mai ansoo yar hum muslim hai hum kisi ko bhi {a.s} kehdete hai ap achai batadijiye mere kuch samajh nahi araha mai kya likho ap koi achai bata dijiye janab ki.

2009年11月4日 22:6Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
JANAB MENE PEHLE BHI TUMHE LIKHA HAI WO HAMARE BOHAT BARE REHNUMA THE HUMNE UNKI KADAR NAHI KI OR HAMARE LIYE BOHAT KUCH THE HUMNE SAMJHA NAHI UNHE KIO K HUMAI QADAR HI NAHI HAI KISI KI

2009年11月5日 2:12Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AliForU
(((A L I))) 18, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
Bismillah Hir Rahmaan Nir Raheem

Assalam O Allaikum

DEar wow amazing wo rehnuma the wah chalo unka 1 waqaya batata ho 1 bar apne apne ghar mai kam kerne walio se kaha k mujhe bathroom jana hai lote mai pani dal ker washroom mai rakh doo jis larki se kaha wo larki kamsin thi usne thora garam numa pani bathroom mai rakh diya jub mirza ghulam ahmed ai washroom kerne k liye pani dekha to bahir agai or poocha bathroom mai lote mai pani kis ne rakha tha to kamsin larki ne kaha jee mene rakha tha to mirza ghulam ahmed ne uske sath zalimana solook kiya uske hath bhi jala diye mirza ghulam ahmed ghussay mai jo the us waqt wah rehnuma ho to aisa kya bat hai aisha jee apki or apke rehnuma ki.

2009年11月10日 13:38Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
ARAY ALI MAI TO TUMHE INNOCENT ACHA LARKA SAMAJHTI THI LEKIN TUM TO BOHAT HI BORE LARKE NIKALE TUM DOSHMAN HO ISLAM K GONAHGAR HO RASOOL TUMHE BAROZE HASHAR MAF NAHI KAREGE BETA ZARA KAN KHOL KER SONO YE WAQAYA YOON HAI.


HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIAN {A.S} NE LARKI SE KAHA BAITUL KHALA MAI LOTA RAKHDO TO US LARKI NE BOHAT GARAM PANI RAKH DIYA PHIR MIRZA SAHEB ANDER GAI OR WASHROOM KIYA OR PHIR MIRZA SAHEB NE BAHIR AKER POOCHA K PANI KISNE RAKHA THA TO LARKI NE KAHA MENE MIRZA SAHEB NE LOTA KA THORA SA BACHA HUA PANI USKE HATH PER DALA TAKE USSE AHSAS HOJAI K MENE KITNA GARAM PANI RAKH DIYA THA BUS IS MAI KON SE ZULM HAI??


ALI LANET HAI JHOOTO PER ALLAH KI.TUM JESE LOGO NE MIRZA SAHEB KO JHOTA BANAYA HUA HAI LEKIN UNKA NAM AJ BHI ZINDA HAI UNKA PYAR AJ BHI HAI HUMARE DIL MAI.

2009年11月12日 23:25Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AliForU
(((A L I))) 18, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Raheem

Assalam O Allaikum

Dekhiye jee jo mene book mai read kiya tha wo mene apko bata diya mene book mai ye hi read kiya tha k unhone bachi k sath zulm kiya tha kher jee agar ap phir bhi samajh rahi hai k mai apse jhoot bolraha ho ya meri in se koi apni doshmani hai to mai apko book ka reffrence dedeta ho mene ye read kiya tha


Book Name...Aaima

Writer Name...Irfan Haider Abdi

Chapter # 6 Page # 56





Allah pak subko seedha rasta dikhai.

Amin.

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AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
ALLAH ki lanut hai jhooti books likhne walo per jhoote waqaye likhne walo per kisi neq ko apni ana ki khatir bora kehne wale per.

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2009年11月24日 16:10Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
Aisha 1 yeh waja ha unhain kafir kehnay ki.....


According to Qadiyani faith & writings they have been prohibited from having any type of contact with the Muslims. Even they are forbidden from participating in Muslims’ marriages & funerals. They have been stressed to boycott the Muslims. Some of the thoughts of Mirza Qadiyani about Muslims are as follows:



It is our duty, not to take non-Ahmadis as Muslims, nor should we say prayers with them, because they deny one of the God’s Apostles

(Anwaar e Khilafat P. 99)

While the non-Ahmadis are infidels, so are their six-month old children also . And as infidels they cannot be buried in the graveyard of the Ahmadis.

(Akbhar Paigham-e-Sulah: 16th of Aug 1936)

I’m hearing the echo of the words of the Promised Christ (Mirza Qadiyani himself). He has said that it is not that our only difference with other people lies in the dispute about Christ’s death & such other issues. He has said that we have differences with others about God, Muhammad (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam), Holy Quran, Prayers, Fasting, Hajj, Zakat etc. and he defined in detail all these differences

(Khutba Mirza Mehmood Alfazal: V: 19, N: 13)

Did Christ not separate himself & his followers from the Jews & made a separate nation? All the Prophets have formed their distinctive nations & groups. Have they not separated themselves from others? So, if in keeping with the demand of prophet hood Hazrat Mirza sahib, who is a Prophet, has separated himself from others, what wrong has he done.

(Alfazal)

Whoever is not sure of our success is in fact, a bastard. He wouldn’t be a legitimate man.

(Roohani Khazain: V: 18, P: 31)

My opponents were named as the Christian, Jews & the Infidels.

(Roohani Khazain: V: 18, P: 382)

Every Muslim values and appreciates my books, gets knowledge from them & confirms & accepts my message (‘dawat’). But only the sons of the Prostitutes didn’t confirm & accept me.

(Roohani Khazain: V: 5, P: 547-548)

Our enemies have become like the boars in the jungle & their woman have become worse than bitches.

(Roohani Khazain: V: 5, P: 153)

Every person who acknowledges Moses (to be a Prophet) but doesn’t acknowledge Christ or acknowledges Christ but doesn’t acknowledge Muhammad (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam) or believes in Muhammad (S.A.W) but has no belief in the Promised Christ (Mirza Qadiyani) is an infidel & has no concern with Islam.

(Kalmatul Fasl: P: 110. By Mirza Basher Ahmad)

I have been given the glad tiding that whoever opposes me after recognizing me, will go to Hell.

(Tazkara Majmooa Ilhamat: P: 168. second edition)

God has revealed to me that whoever gets my message & doesn’t accept me is not a Muslim.

(Tazkara Majmooa Ilhamat: P: 600, second edition)

All those Muslims who haven’t taken the oath of allegiance to the Promised Christ (Mirza Qadiyani), even though they have never heard of Mirza Qadiyani, are infidels & have nothing to do with Islam.

(Ainae Sadaqat: P: 35. By Mirza Mehmood)

Our observation is that the Promised Christ (Mirza Qadiyani) treated the non-Ahmadis as the Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) treated the Christians. He made our prayers separate from those of non-Ahmadis. He prohibited us from having marital relations with them & participating in their funerals. So, in all respects we have broken our ties with them. There are two types of relations: religious & worldly or temporal. The greater source of religious relation is the common rituals of worship, while the greater source of worldly relation is the matrimonial alliance. And we have been prohibited from having both types of relations.

(Kalmatul Fasal: P: 169. By Mirza Basher Ahmed)

2009年10月25日 11:10Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
qadiyani daira islam se kharij hein....
mujey taras aata ha aksar qadiyaanioon per k wo apna mazhab jantay hi nahi....ager jaan jaein tu yaqeenan mulman ho jaye

2009年10月30日 22:15Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
KON MOSALMAN HAI YE TALIBAN YA JO ISLAM KO BHOOL CHOKE HAI YA PHIR WO MOSALMAN HAI JO APNI BAT SAMJHANE K LIYE MAZLOOM BANGAI LEKIN UNHE AP LOGO NE KAFIR KEHDIYA GOOD YAR

2009年10月31日 17:52Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
App nadan ho appko nahi maaloom k apka mazhab qadiyaan ha kiya...yeh kab or kesay bana,isko bananay walay kon thay,or ye kis maksad k liye banaya gaya......ap apnay mazhab k baaray search ker lo phir aap baat kerna...ALLAh apko rah-e-hidayat ata farmaye....Aameen
qadiyaani kitnay mazloom hein iski 1 misaal dena chahta hoon wo ye ki Rabwa jo qadiyaanioon ki main jaga ha wahan logoon k paas jitna paisa ha pooray punjab k logon k paas nahi,kabi koi qadiyaani garib ni dekho ge...kisi na kisi qadiyani k ghar ka koi fard dosray mulk laaazmi hoga.......
ALLAH apko samjhnay ki himat or taufeeq de

2009年10月31日 20:37Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
KIO G KIO BNAYAGAYA THA HAMARA MAZHAB?
JHOT BOLRAHE HO AMIR AP MAI KHUD QADIANI MAZHAB SE TALLUK RAKHTI HO MAI TO NAHI HAI BAHIR MULK MAI OR NA HI MERE GHAR KA KOI BANDA HAI WAHA ? AB JAWAB DIJIYE

2009年11月21日 13:54Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
yaar molvioun ne tu apki aqal bhii maar kar rakh di hai jo itnay bongay ilzaam laga rahay ho................ahmadiyon k tamaam mali kaam chandou(funds)se chaltay haii...ab pocho gay k ye funds kaha se atay hain...to zara kisi ahmadi se pochna k wo kitna kitna chanda deta hai...inhii ahmadiyo k funds se saaray kaam hotay hain..aur yehii funds un ahmadiyou ko bhi diye jatay hain jo gareeb hain...isstarha tum log ahmadiyo mei gurbat kam dekho gay.....aur jaha tak apka ye ilzaam k har family ka koi na koi fard bahar k mulk hai....to iss ka jawab ye hai k ye sabit kar k dikhaa doo....awal to sabit nai kar sktay agar kar bhiido to iss mei kia haraj hai....kia apkay ghar mei se koi bahar chala jai to wo kafir hai ?

2009年11月24日 15:0Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
kafir bahir janay wala ni hota janab....har qadiyani bahir ja ker asylum claim kerta ha or ussay wo ba-asaani mil jata ha..wo isliye k Apka background hi aisa ha/...
me apki dil azaari ni kerna chahta buss apko aware kerna chahta hoon k app bhattkay hoye ho....plz apnay mazhab ki kitaabain hi parrh lo apko sach ka pata chal jaye ga...
apki jamat k loog apko kabhi apnay mazhb k baaray jan'nay ni dain ge kiyoon ki wo jantay hein k ager app log jaan gaye tu unko dukaandaari band....
plz kuch soocho iss baaray

2009年11月24日 15:27Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
bhai mere aap logo ko pata nai kon kia kia bata deta hai...kio k apki baat siray se hi galat hai....asylum sab ko mil jata hai....aur jaha tak sawal hai hamari jamaat k baray mei ilam ka tu ye apka ilzaam bilkul galat hai....hamari jamaat tu books taqseem karti phirti hai...jiss kisam k aap ilam ki baat aap kar rahay hain k mirza sb mei falana nuqs tha falana aib tha tu wo iss liye nai dii jati k ye taleeem ya ilam sirf molvioun k pass hai kio k wo mukhaalifat mei wo kuch kehtay hain jo kabhii huwa bhi nai hota......mirza sab par ilzamaat lagana band kar dain
nabi mei aib nikaalna achi baat nai..aur na hi nabi mei aib hota hai

2009年11月24日 15:49Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
I have some information about Mirza ghulam ahmed...
i want to share it with you with refrance of ur books....u can read...u must read

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani, the founder of the Qadiyani mythology, was born in 1936 in a town ‘Qadiyan’ district Gurdaspur, East Punjab. He gives the moment to moment report of his birth in his book in these words,

” A girl, whose name was Jannat, was born with me. First that girl came out of the womb and then me - and my head was in her feet”

(Taryaqulquloob.p.351, Roohani Khazain p.479.v.15)

2009年11月24日 15:59Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
want some more information?

It is a strange title that who is Mirza Qadiyani. Even the Qadiyanis could not comprehend him. He changed hundreds of faces. On the one hand he says that he is Hazrat Muhammad's (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam) shadow and on the other he claims to be Ram Krishna. Even an actor might not have changed so many roles. Some of his roles, that have been taken from his own books, are as follows:

THE PREGNANCY OF PROMISED CHRIST OF THE QADIYANIS

About his pregnancy Mirza writes down in his book that,

“Like Maryam, Christ’s spirit was infused into me and metaphorically I was conceived. At last after several months, not more than ten months, through revelation that I have stated in the part four page. 556 of Braheen-e-Ahmedia, I was made Christ from Mary. In this way I am Ibn e Maryam (son of Mary).”

(Kashti-e-Nooh. P.47. Roohani Khazain V.19. P.50)

CLAIM OF INTERCOURSE WITH GOD

No one has ever alleged God with so much a shameful allegation. The suppression of virility would have been made by Satan in the guise of spiritual being.

” The Promised Christ once stated his condition that under the feeling of revelation he felt as if he were a woman and God had intercourse with him.”

(Islami Qurbani Tract No.34, by Qazi Yar Muhammad Qadiyani)

THE CLAIM OF BEING GOD

Mirza Qadiyani writes in his book (May God Forbid)

“I dreamt that I my self am God. I believed that I was God.”

(Aina-e-Kamalat Islam. P.564, Roohani Khazain V.5 . P.564)

“In a revelation I saw that I was God and I believed that I was so.”

(Kitab-el-Biria P.85, Roohani Khazain V.3.P.103)

CLAIM OF BEING MARY

” And God named me Mary in the book Braheen-e-Ahmedia.”

(Tazkara. P. 40)

CLAIM OF BEING HAJR E ASWAD (A STONE)

”A man kissed my foot I said I am the Black Stone (Hajra-e-Aswad).”

(Tazkara P. 36)

WORLD CHAMPION OF ABUSIVE LANGUAGE

More than 450 abuses are written in the books of Mirza Qadiyani. No other leader of any other religion, true or false can compete Mirza Qadiyani in using abusive language. Even politicians find it difficult to match his abilities and admit his command on the subject.

CLAIM OF BEING KRISHNA

“I am the very Krishna.”

(Tazkara P.381)

CLAIM OF BEING AMEEN-UL-MULK JAY SINGH BAHADUR

Mirza claimed of being Ameenul Mulk Jay Singh Bahadur.

(Tazkara P. 472)

CLAIM OF BEING HEAVENLY

Mirza Qadiyani was obsessed by the love or lust of Muhammadi Begum and used different strange tactics to get her. Of these the most interesting claim was that

“God has wedded me with Muhammadi Begum in heavens and she must be mine”

But the marriage did not take place. She was married to Sultan Mehmood. She bore three sons. Because Mirza Qadiyani is considered a Prophet by Qadiyanis, so in this connection Muhammadi Begum became their spiritual mother. The children from the “Mother” were of Sultan Mehmood instead of Mirza Jee. To escape from this disgrace and to get Muhammadi Begum, Mirza continued to threat from his revelations that Sultan Mehmood would die and his land, Patti, would be destroyed. But like his other hundreds of predictions, this prediction also turned out to be false.

WHO AM I, MIRZA TELLS THE TRUTH:

An outstanding poet, Mirza introduces himself as follows

“I am neither made of clay nor I am any human being’s child

I am really a shame for human beings and I am worth hating.”

(Durre Sameen P.116)

Qadiyanis are appealed that keeping all these things in mind, decide once again that “Who Mirza Qadiyani actually is”?

2009年11月25日 6:15Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
ha ha ha ha ...wah bhai wah lagta hai kafi mehnat se aap ne urdu mei chapay howay ishtihhaar ko english mei translate kia ai aur write kia hai.....pehli baat......kisi admi ki shakhsiyat ka andaza uskay mukhaalif ki taraf se likhi gai kutab se nai lagaya jata...........aur aap log hamesha hi aisa kartay ho.....agar ye baat theek hoti to hamaray piyare nabi hazrat MOHAMMAD S A W par jo kutab christans ne likhi hain wo man nay se (naa oo zo billah) wo nabi b nai kehlaa skay gay...jab k wo sab se afzal tareen rasool hain nabi hain .....
umeed hai pehli baat clear ho gai ho gii aur ab aap apnay molvioun ki utab se hawalay nikaal kar nai lain gay
dosri baat ye k aik imaam mehdi nay ana tha jis ne unkay darmiyaan faisla karna tha kio k hadith mei usko munsif karaar diya gaya hai..................iss liye imaam mehdi hindu logo k liye kirishan hain..kio k kirishan ji b khuda k nabi thay baad mei unki taleem ko kharab kar diya gaya.......essa bhi imaam mehdi hai...wo iss liye k pehle walay essa to sirf bani israa eel k liye thay aur QURAN ki roo se wafaat paa chukay hain ..........ab unki jaga bhi imaam mehdi ne ana tha......jo baat aap ne ki k mirza sahib ne KHUDA honay ka dawa ki ye galat hai galat hai aur galat hai................jo waqiyaa aap ne biyaan kia usmei ye hai k MIRZA sb ne aik khuaab dekha jis mei unho ne apnay apko KHUDA k rrop mei dekha khuaab khatam honay k baad jo tashree unho ne khud ki wo to aap ne yaha par writ nai ki aur tasweer ka aik pehloo dekha kar awaam ko dokha diya
ab suno meri baat............khuaab ki hamesha tabeer howa kerti hai.....aur iss ki jo aap ne tabeer ki wo ye qatan nai ki k mei ab KHUDA bhi hun ...ye to aap k molviou ki tabeer hai.....kiya hi acha ho k aap apnay daste mubarak se wo tabeer bhi awaam k samnay khud laa kar write kar dain ta khud awaam faislaa kar skay.....................
aik aap ne baat ki k ahmadiyat ko kiss ne banaya ....aur lagta hai k apka isharaa britans yani english logo ki taraf hai..........to aap logo ka ye aitraaz sun kar shadeed kisam ki hansi nikal jati hai aap ki kam fehmi par...................apni kutab mei agar (hub ul watni) par zoor dena aur us hakoomat k khilaaf gadari karnay walo ko us se rokna aur ye samjhana k english hakomat ne hum sab ko araam muhaya kia huwa hai to hum iss k khilaaf kio bagaawat karain kio iski gadari karain issi cheez se to hazrat MUHAMMAD S A W ne roka tha...ab mjhe batao k iss tarha k byanaat se koi kis tarha aqal mand admi keh skta hai aap english hakomat ne ham logo ko qaim kia......molvi in se maa wara ain..................dosri taraf hum dekhtay hain k miza sb ne tasliis ka rad kia aur christans k mou ki khani pari....ab zara socho k agar engrezo ne hum logo ko banaya hota to mirza sb kio taslliis ka rad kartay kio eessa ko KHUDA man nay se inkaar kertay...wo kio muhammad rasool ul ALLAH ki afzaliat ko sabit kertay...unko to phir koi aisa mazhab paish karna cha hee aye tha jo isaayat se qareeb tareen hota..jis mei paadrioun ko zilat na uthani parti....ye sirf do teen batain apkay ilzamaat ka rad kerti hain

2009年11月26日 13:2Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

aamir23
AaMiR 24, 拉合尔, 巴基斯坦
sarkar app itnay bholay waqai ho jitna ban'nay ki koshish ker rahay ho?
mujey lagta ha appnay kabhi apnay bharron ki books ka name tak ni suna...ye aap logon ki hi likhi gayi books me se quote kiya ha.isse chalo ye tu prove hoa k app loog apnay mazhab k qariib hi nahi jatay,ya dollat ki hawas apko aisa kernay ni deti,ya shaitaan poori tarha ghalib aa gaya ha...
or apki baat ka jawab sirf 1 line me doon ga....

"the deaf,the dumb, the blind can not get the right paath"(Qur'an)
khuda apko hidayat de

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AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
DEKHO AMIR TUM ABHI BHI BAT KO NAHI SAMJHE YAR ITNE ACHE TAREEKE SE MERE DOST NE TUMHE SAMJHAYA AB BHI TUM NAHI SAMJHHE AFREEN HAI YAR MIRZA SAHEB IS THE GOD GIFT FOR US MANU YA NA MANU


MIRZA SAHEB HI SAB KUCH HAI JO NABI HOTA HAI WO KOI AAM NAHI HOTA DOST OR HER ZAMANE MAI NABI KO KOM NE BOHAT DOKH DIYE HAI UNHHEN NA MANNE K AITRAZAT KIYE HAI LEKIN MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI {A} ALLAH K NABI HAI TUM BHALE JHOTLAO KOI FARAK NAHI PARHTA.

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2009年10月26日 16:35Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

3much2handle
mohad ali kh 18, 丹麦
guyz mei tu pheli baar iss naam ko suna hoo aur
and to come out these tag names and sectors we should follow one ISLAM not any sector
and about y ppl call them kafir i dont know and i heard first time

2009年10月30日 22:16Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
KOI KISI KO KAFIR NAHI KEHSAKTA YAR PROUD TO BE MUSLIM

2009年10月31日 12:3Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

3much2handle
mohad ali kh 18, 丹麦
when u r saying proud to be muslim
then why u post this topic
when u r clear with yourself and with our religion islam
so dont worry
just follow allah and islam quran

2009年10月31日 20:38Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
MERI BAT GHOR SE SONO HER 1 KA APNA AKEEDA HOTA HAI NA TO PHIR IS MAI 1 DOSRE KO KAFIR KEHNE KI KYA ZAROORAT HAI JO JAHA LAGA HAI LAGE REHNE DIJIYE

2009年10月31日 20:47Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

3much2handle
mohad ali kh 18, 丹麦
moslman woh hai jo sirf allah aur islam ko follow kareee
na keee apne taraf se sector create kareee aur individual ko allah k darjaaa deeee

2009年11月3日 21:37Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
HUM NE SECTOR CREAT NAHI KIYA NAHI NA HI KOI KISI KO ALLAH K MOKABIL ROTBA DETA HAI JO DETA HAI WO KAFIR HAI SURE YAR

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2009年11月21日 13:58Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
asalaam u alikum...,...
mene sari chat parhi jo yaha logo ne apnay khiyaalaat ka izhaar kia..un mei sab se achii baat apki yehi lagi k aik ALLAH aur us k rasool ko aur unki baatoun aur taleemaat ko mano....................mei bhi ahmadi hun iss liye apka jawab nafrat se paak laga

2009年11月21日 14:5Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

3much2handle
mohad ali kh 18, 丹麦
app b ahmadi hoo????????????? yah phir mosslaman

aap plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sector ko follow maat karro plzzzzzzzz

2009年11月22日 7:57Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
ji hazoor baat to apki darust hai k sect ko mat follow karo magar kia karo HAZRAT MUHAMMAD S A W ne farmaya k meri umat k 73 sects hon gay un mei se 1 sect kamyaab ho ga ....so sabit hoa k apko kisi na kisi sect mei hona paray ga...
ANY DOUBT ?

2009年11月23日 3:18Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
bhai mere aap jo itna sect ko na follow karnay par zor de rahay hain app btayee k app kon se sect se belong kertay hain....chaar(4) imaamo mei se kiss ko mantay hain.....namaaz kiss sect ki majid mei ada kertay hain...agar kahoo k kisi imaam ko nahi manta tu phir yani aap apna hi ISLAM bana kar bethay hain...agar kaho k kisi masjid mei ja kar namaz nai ada karta ghar mei ada kerta hun tu namaz bajamaat phir kiss tarhaa kertay hain? kia office mei bhi namaz pertay waqt jamaat kerwatay hain////////fatway kiss sect k kabool kertay ho? agar koi islamic problm creat ho jai to kiss sect k molvi ki baat mantay ho....hamaray piyaray rasool hazrat muhammad S A W ne to umat ko 73 sect mei taqseem kar diya tha to agar aap kisi sect mei se nai ho tu iss ka matlab hai k aap apna alaida koi wahid fard ka jis sirf aap ho sect bana kar bethay ho jis k app khud imaam khud molvi aur khud hi pervii kernay walay ho...................wasalaaam

2009年11月24日 17:59Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

3much2handle
mohad ali kh 18, 丹麦
i follow one reilgion and tht is Islam
and i love all prophets of Allah
anything else?
And Prophet Muhamad never said that there is 73 sector
Dont put on him

2009年11月25日 4:41Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
oo mere bhai app se darkhuaast hai k jis baat ka pata na ho us k baray mei behas nai kertay........jis hadith ki mei baat kar raha hun wo hai.....agar mei aap ko nikaal kar dikha dun to phir? aap ka ye kehna k mei kisi sect ka hissa nahi ye sira sar glat hai...dosri baat ye k aap ne mere baqi tamaam sawalaat ka jawaab nai diya agar diya hota to zaroor maslaa hal ho jata ...lekin lagta hai k jawab nai tha aap k paas...
acha aap k waalid sahib konsay firqay se hain?

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2009年11月5日 4:5Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

mahmoodhussain54
Mahmood 55, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
Dear Friends,

This so-called “hot” topic is posted in several web pages by preachers of Qadiani or Ahmadi belief to gain sympathies of Muslims and others. Since we (the people of Indo-Pak sub-continent) have soft corner to listen to others, especially women sect, the messages from Qadiani and Ahmadi community in support of their beliefs are mostly posted by young girls of 18 to 30 or so. Those who believe in the oneness of Allah and believe that Mohammad (peace be upon him) is the LAST messenger of Allah, shouldn’t indulge into the useless discussions of proving of what has already been proved by the Holy Quran and later by the law of the land. Ahmadis and Qadianis have been officially declared non-muslims more than three decades ago, there is no point arguing with those who are non-believers. Please take guidance from the Holy Quran and Sunnah and act accordingly. Please read Surat Al-Kafroon, which says:

[Kafiroon 109:1] Proclaim, (O dear Prophet Mohammed - peace and blessings be upon him), “O disbelievers!”
[Kafiroon 109:2] Neither do I worship what you worship.
[Kafiroon 109:3] Nor do you worship Whom I worship.
[Kafiroon 109:4] And neither will I ever worship what you worship.
[Kafiroon 109:5] Nor will you worship Whom I worship.
[Kafiroon 109:6] For you is your religion, and for me is mine.

Dear friends, let the non-believers stay astray, if they choose to be so. I am reproducing below English translation of a few verses from the Holy Quran (Surat Bakara):

“6. As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

7. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).

8. Of the people there are some who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day;" but they do not (really) believe.

9. Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realize (it) not!

10. In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).

11. When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!"

12. Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realize (it) not.”

Dear friends, please recite 6th Kalima, i.e. Kalma Radde Kuffar, which is reproduced below with its translation in English:

6TH KALMA RADDE KUFFAR
ALLA'HUMMA INNI A'OOZOBEKA MIN AN USHREKA BEKA SHAI-ANWWA ANA A'LAMO BEHEE WA ASTAGHFEROKA LEMA LA A'LAMO BEHEE TUBTO ANOH WA TABARRATO MENALKUFRE WASH-SHIRKE WALKIZBE WALGHIBATE WALBID'ATE WANNA'MEEMATE WALFAWAHESHE WAL'BUHTANE WALMA'ASI KULLEHA WA ASLAMTO WA AQOOLO LA ILAHA ILLALLHO MOHAMMADUR-RASOOLULLAH

O Allah! I seek refuge in Thee that I knowingly commit shirk I seek forgiveness from Thee of sin I am unaware of I hereby from kuffar,shirk and lies and back biting and heresy and informing with evil intent and wickedness and false accusations and repent of all sins and declare of my disowning and I bring Islam and say, There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is the messenger of Allah.

Take care,

Allah Hafiz

2009年11月10日 13:42Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AaishaNaz
Aaisha 18, 卡拉奇, 巴基斯坦
APNE HI RELY PER ZARA GHOR KARE SAMAJH HAI TO

2009年11月12日 18:19Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
masha Allah yeh uper shezi, ali aur dosray tesray bhai tu naozbillah khuda bhany baithay hain.apni taraf say jisay dil kya kafir aur musalman bnaya aur chal so chal.ALLAH talah fermata hai k ay insane tujah kya pata k koi acha hai ya bura koi sai hai ya ghalt.ager yeh bat hai tu ahlay shia ko kafir kyun nai kehtay wo tu hazrat ali is ko hi mantay hai
ab jo ali nay uper waqia byan kiya hai woh bhi dekh lo.ab ager ali bhai main ap k walid sahib k baray main koi jhota waqia mashooor ker don tu kya wo logon main phayl ker sacha ho jai ga.meri yeh derkhwast hai k logon ko kafir kehna band karo aur pehlay apnay ap ko sai karo.sach sach batao kitni namazin parhtay ho.khali dari rakhna salwar unchi kerna koi islam nai hai

2009年11月12日 23:34Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

AliForU
(((A L I))) 18, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦

Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Raheem

Assalam O Allaikum

Dekhiye jee jo mene book mai read kiya tha waqiya wo mene apko bata diya mene book mai ye hi read kiya tha mai apko book ka reffrence dedeta ho mene ye read kiya tha


Book Name...Aaima

Writer Name...Irfan Haider Abdi

Chapter # 6 Page # 56


Mene abhi tak kisi ko kafir nahi kaha hai janab mene to ye kaha hai k her 1 ka apna apna akeeda hai her banda apne gereban mai jhanke apko kya lena dena meri namaz se dear.

Allah pak subko seedha rasta dikhai.

Amin.

2009年11月13日 5:21Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
salam bhai
yehi tu bat hai jo kuch ap nay book main parha wo byane ker dia.ab ap hindu ki book parho us main likha hai k ALLAh ta allah nai hotay naozbillah tu jaisa mujah ap ka zehan lag raha hai kya ap yeh bhi man lo gay k naozbillah ALLAH ta allah nai hotay.book ka .hawala main deta hon.ab jiss book ka hawala ap nay dia hai us jaise main ap ko kai aur book ka hawala deta hon.us main HAZRAT MUHAMMED (saw)ki shan k baray main bakwas likhi hui hai.tu kya man lo gay aur issi tarhanlogon ko bata tay phiro gay us book ka hwalay dayta raho gay her aik ko
rahi namazon ki bat jab bhi hamain koi namaz k baray main kehta hai tu hum usay yehi kehtay hain k tumhain kya meri namazon say.yehi tu bat hai k hum bhol gay hain roz e akhrat ko pehla sawal namaz ka hi hona hai.hum log apni namazian choor ker yeh guess kertay hain k kon muslim hai aur kon nai.
ab ahmadiyat aik jhota mazhab hota tu itna phelta.kya ALLAH nai dekh raha naozbillah.yeh dekho zara search karo log christian aur hindu mazhab say aur dosray mzahib say ahmadiat main dakhil ho rahay hain.apnay ird ghird molvioon say pocho kitnay muslim kiay hain yeh ahmadiat hai jo islam ko phela rahi hai her jaga.ager HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIYANI a.s k waqiat parhnay ho tu www.alislam.org pay jana.HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIYANI a.s.hum piron ki kabor per jatay hain jisay pochay main manat mangi ay.kya yeh shirk nai.main zyada behas main nai perna chahta ap k reply ka shukria
waslam

2009年11月18日 0:29Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
WALAIKUM
TUM NE KAHA K QADIYANI MAZHAB AGER JHOOTA HOTA TO ITNA PHELTA....?????
PHELA HUA TO HINDU MAZHAB B HAI OR YAOODI MAZHAB B TO TUM KYA KAHO GE K WO SAB B THEEK HAIN....?????

PHIR TUM NE KAHA K LOG QADYANIYAT KI TARAF A RAHE HAIN TO YE KOI SACHAI KI DALEEL TO NAHI LOG TO HINDU B HO RAHE HAIN YAHOODI B HO RAHE HAIN.

OR TUMARE MIRZA KI QABER KAHA HAI YE TO BATAO KAISA NABI HAI JIS KI QABAR KA HI KISI KO NAHI PATA WAAAAH.
HUM MUSLIMS JIN KO AKHRI NABI MANTE HAIN ON KA DARBAR E PAK TO QUL KAENAT KO MALOOM HAI BAL K KAENAAT K ZARE ZARE KO MALOOM HAI.ALHAM DO LILLAH

................AGAY AGAY DEKHIYE HOTA HAI KYA...............

2009年11月18日 0:40Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
BISMILLAH HIREHMAN NIRAHEEM

ASSALAM ALAIKUM
MAI KCH ZYADA TO NAHI JANTA BUT YE 3 AHADEES PAK HAIN INHEN ZARA READ KIJIYE.

HAZRAT ABU SAEED KHUZRI(R.A) SE RIWAYAT HAI HAZOOR NABI PAK(SAWW) NE FARMAYA
""MAHDI MUJ SE(YANI MERI NASAL SE) HONGE OR ON KA CHEHRA KHOOB NOORANI CHAMAKDAAR OR NAAK BULAND HOGI.ZAMEEN KO ADL O INSAAF SE BHAR DENGE JIS TARHA PEHLE WO ZULM SE BHARI HO GI"" [ABU DAUD]

""QAYAMAT QAIM NAHI HOGI JAB TAK K ZAMEEN ZULM OR SARKASHI SE BHAR NA JAE.BAD MAI MERE AHL E BAIT MAI SE 1 SHAKHS (MAHDI) PAIDA HOGA JO ZAMEEN KO ADL O INSAAF SE BHAR DE GA"" [AL MUSTADRAK]


UMM UL MOMINEEN HAZRAT UMM E SALMA(R.A) FARMATI HAIN K MAINE HAZOOR NABI PAK(SAWW) KO FARMATE HUE SUNA MAHDI(A.S) MERI NASAL OR FATIMA(S.A) KI OLAD MAI SE HOGA""[ABU DAUD]

MERA SAWAL YE HAI K AGER IMAM MAHDI KA ZAHOOR MIRZA GHULAM QADIYANI KI SHAKAL MAI HO CHUKA HAI TO
1. WHY MIRZA GHULAM QADYANI WAS NOT ""SYED""(NOT FROM AHL E BAIT).....?????
JAB K OPER AHADEES PAK SE SAAF PATA CHAL JATA HAI K IMAM MEHDI AHL E BAIT SE HONGE(SYED HONGE).

2.AGER IMAM MAHDI KA ZAHOOR MIRZA GHULAM QADYANI KI SHAKAL MAIN HO CHUKA HAI TO ZAMEEN MAIN ADL O INSAF KIU NAHI QAIM HUA.....????? BAL K HUM SAB NE DEKHA HAI K MIRZA K BAD TO FITNA OR ZYADA HO GAYA HAI OR ZYADA FASAD PHAIL GAYA HAI OR ABHI TAK PHAIL RAHA HAI.

3.OR 3RD BAT YE HAI K KABHI KAHA JATA HAI
HE(MIRZA QADYANI) WAS THE MESSENGER(NABI) OF ALLAH

KABHI KAHA JATA HAI
HE WAS HAZRAT ISSA IBN E MARYAM(A.S)
OR

KABHI KAHA JATA HAI
HE WAS HAZRAT IMAM MAHDI

I THINK PEHLE TO YE FAISLA HO JANA CHAHIYE THAT WHO WAS MIRZA QADYANI.....?????

OS K BAD BAKI BATEN HONI CHAHIYE...........

ALLAH PAAK HUM SAB KO SEEDHE RASTE PER CHALAE.AMEEN

2009年11月18日 0:46Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
BISMILLAH HIREHMAN NIRAHEEM

ASSALAM ALAIKUM
MAI KCH ZYADA TO NAHI JANTA BUT YE 3 AHADEES PAK HAIN INHEN ZARA READ KIJIYE.

HAZRAT ABU SAEED KHUZRI(R.A) SE RIWAYAT HAI HAZOOR NABI PAK(SAWW) NE FARMAYA
""MAHDI MUJ SE(YANI MERI NASAL SE) HONGE OR ON KA CHEHRA KHOOB NOORANI CHAMAKDAAR OR NAAK BULAND HOGI.ZAMEEN KO ADL O INSAAF SE BHAR DENGE JIS TARHA PEHLE WO ZULM SE BHARI HO GI"" [ABU DAUD]

""QAYAMAT QAIM NAHI HOGI JAB TAK K ZAMEEN ZULM OR SARKASHI SE BHAR NA JAE.BAD MAI MERE AHL E BAIT MAI SE 1 SHAKHS (MAHDI) PAIDA HOGA JO ZAMEEN KO ADL O INSAAF SE BHAR DE GA"" [AL MUSTADRAK]


UMM UL MOMINEEN HAZRAT UMM E SALMA(R.A) FARMATI HAIN K MAINE HAZOOR NABI PAK(SAWW) KO FARMATE HUE SUNA MAHDI(A.S) MERI NASAL OR FATIMA(S.A) KI OLAD MAI SE HOGA""[ABU DAUD]

MERA SAWAL YE HAI K AGER IMAM MAHDI KA ZAHOOR MIRZA GHULAM QADIYANI KI SHAKAL MAI HO CHUKA HAI TO
1. WHY MIRZA GHULAM QADYANI WAS NOT ""SYED""(NOT FROM AHL E BAIT).....?????
JAB K OPER AHADEES PAK SE SAAF PATA CHAL JATA HAI K IMAM MEHDI AHL E BAIT SE HONGE(SYED HONGE).

2.AGER IMAM MAHDI KA ZAHOOR MIRZA GHULAM QADYANI KI SHAKAL MAIN HO CHUKA HAI TO ZAMEEN MAIN ADL O INSAF KIU NAHI QAIM HUA.....????? BAL K HUM SAB NE DEKHA HAI K MIRZA K BAD TO FITNA OR ZYADA HO GAYA HAI OR ZYADA FASAD PHAIL GAYA HAI OR ABHI TAK PHAIL RAHA HAI.

3.OR 3RD BAT YE HAI K KABHI KAHA JATA HAI
HE(MIRZA QADYANI) WAS THE MESSENGER(NABI) OF ALLAH

KABHI KAHA JATA HAI
HE WAS HAZRAT ISSA IBN E MARYAM(A.S)
OR

KABHI KAHA JATA HAI
HE WAS HAZRAT IMAM MAHDI

I THINK PEHLE TO YE FAISLA HO JANA CHAHIYE THAT WHO WAS MIRZA QADYANI.....?????

OS K BAD BAKI BATEN HONI CHAHIYE...........

TO TUM LOG MUJE CONFIRM KER K BATAO K WHO WAS MIRZA GHULAM QADYANI SPECIALY AISHA TUM.....

ALLAH PAAK HUM SAB KO SEEDHE RASTE PER CHALAE.AMEEN

2009年11月18日 7:30Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
salam alykum
log hindu bhi ho rahy hain aur yahoodi bhi.per baher nikal dekho k yahoodi aur hindu ho kon raha hai.woh ho rahay hain jin ko islam ahmadiyat ka pata nai.Muslim aur charists hi ahmadiyat main dakhil ho rahay hain.tum yeh batao k kitnay muslims ko jante ho jo yahoodi aur hindu huay hain.

rahi bat kaber ki tu tum pehlay thori research ker lo.phir bataon ga bautay baitay kuch nai milta ager tum itna hi ahmadiyat ko necha dikhana chahtay ho tu zara apna ilm kisi molvee say barh ha ker oa.

ya tu tum khuda ho naozbillah jo keh rahay ho k kainat k zaray zaray ko pata hai k nabi pak HAZRAT MUHAMMED SAW ka dabar e pak kidher hai.

aur han ager qaber ka pata na chaly tu apni taraf say koi jhuti bat na keh dayna.jaisa k ap logon ka kam hai.nai pata chalay ga tu main bata don ga
w salam

2009年11月18日 21:0Re: Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
AREE AREEEE AREEEEEE ITNA GUSA KIOO KERTE HO

IBTADA E ISHQ HAI ROTA HAI KYA.....?????
AGAY AGAY DEKHIYE HOTA HAI KYA

TUM TO WAISE HI BATEN KER RAHE HO AGER TYM HUA TO YE CLIP ZARA GHOR SE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gI3Q-V-C8g

2009年11月19日 14:0Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
salam
bhai jan bohat shukriya ap ki is video ka rahi bat is video ki tu hum nay apnay mazhab main yeh sab ko ijazat di hai k sab apni search kerk jo bhi dosray mazhib main jana chahay ja sakta hai,main ap ko video di kha saktya hon k aik african badshan nay islam ahmadiyyat kabol ki hai aur us k sath us ki pori qum bhi hui ahmadi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a153g5Srxn0

video hi dekhni hai tu yeh dakin aur jawab dain
salam alykum

2009年11月20日 0:21Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
VIDEO TO MAINE DEKH LIA HAI TUM IS K THROUGH KYA KEHNA CHAHTE HO MAIN SAMJA NAHI KHER CHORO SAB BATEN MUJE YE BATAO K TUM LOG MERE SAWALON KA JAWB Q NAHI DETE HO......?????

TUM MAI SE KISI K PAS MERE SAWALON K JAWAB HI NAHI.................

NA HANIA NE DIYA NA HI AISHA NE OR NA HI TUM DETE HO.AGR TUMARE PAS KOI JAWAB NAHI TO SAF BATATE Q NAHI.........?????
TUM ITNA GHABRATE Q HO IN SAWALON SE..........?????

AB SIRF SAWALON K JAWAB DO AGR ATE HAIN TO WAISE MUJE UMEED E KAMIL HAI TUM KISI NAI KAHANI K SATH HI AO GE................

A MERE PAK RABB SAB KO RAH E RAST PER CHALNE KI TOFEEK ATA FARMA.AMIEN

2009年11月20日 12:16Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
salam bhai
is video k baray main aik hi sawal hai ap say
kya yeh ap ka kalma nai.ager hai tu in ko kyun nai kuch kehtay ahmadion k pechay kyun paray hain.

ab ap k sawal ki bat ki jai .ap k sawal bachon walay hain.in k jawab tu kissi ahmadi bachay say poch lo bata day ga.HAnia aur aisha k baray main yehi kahonga k unko is ka jawab nai ata
main ap k sawal ka jawab deh tu don per ap k ayman per koi aser nai hona .jab tak ap yeh ghalt fehmi main raho k HAZRAT ISS r.a uper zinda baithay hain.in k jawab k bad apnay aur sawal phir aur sawal kernay hai .bat tu yeh hai na k ap amal bhi karo ab maray huay ko kya mar na



2009年11月20日 12:34Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
main jwab donga tu kaho gay k tum tu waisay hi batain kertay ho aur bla bla bla etc

2009年11月20日 19:51Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

shahraze
shezy 20, 伊斯兰堡, 巴基斯坦
HAHAHAHAHA.......................
MAINE PEHLE HI KEH DIYA THA K TUM KISI NAI KAHANI K SATH AO GE.
O MUJE TUMARI KAHANIYAN NAHI SUN'NI MUJE MERE SAWALON K JAWAB DO.OR KUCH NAHI SUNAO

2009年11月21日 14:12Re: Re: Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
asalaam u alikum
oo shezyy bhai app ne dar asal aik MARD E KHUDA
se jawab talab kia iss liye mujhe jawab dena para........larkio se behas karna munasib nai.......mujhe se baat karo....inshallah tasalee bakhshh jawab milay ga
mene to pehle bhi kaha tha k aap logo k paas bus yehii aik tareeqa reh gaya hai k mirza sahab ki zaat par aitraaz par aitraaz kertay chalay jao...aur main point ki taraf kabhii na aao...chalo jaisii apki marzii.....mera kaam tha apko samjhana wo mene diya..baqi qiyamat k roz khud KHUDA app se poch le ga... kio k aitrazaat to yahoodi aur aisaaaeee hamaray nabi kareem S.A.W par bhii bohat se kertay hain magar wo bhi asal baat ki taraf nahi atay...mei unkay bi aitraazaat sun chuka hun bilkul app jaisay kertay hain...mubarak ho apko k kam se kam aap nabi kareem ki us hadith par to theek beth tay hain k jis tarha aap ne farmaya jis ka mafhoom ye hai k meri umat yahoodiyou k mushabeh ho jai giii...........congratulation 2 u..........mera maqsad apko zaleel karna nai balkay rahay huda dikha na hai....apko chahee aye k mujhe se khatm e nabuwat ya wafaat eesaa par baat karo....jis ki badoolat haq zahir ho ga
ALLAH app logo ko molviou se bachaey aur seedhii rah par chalaii (ameen)

2009年11月21日 3:33Re: KAFIR KIO KEHTE HAIN?

MIRZA36
shadow_man20 20, 锡亚尔科特, 巴基斯坦
asalaam u alikum..apkay pehle sawal ka tu ye jawab hai k imaam mehdi ki rawayaat meii iss qadar ikhtilaaf hai k hum kisi aik baat par mutafiq nai ho sktay. saha sita ki ahaadith mei hi itna ikhtilaaf hai k faislaa kisi aik baat par hona mushkil hai... agar itni hi baat hai tu hadith ka hawala do....mei saha sita mei se 10 aur aisii hadith nikaal kar de dou ga...aur aik hawala quraan se b nikaal kar de dou ga...likin us k liye apko sab se pehle hawala pesh karna ho ga
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